I bought the 7, 9, 11, and 14RL and just absolutely love them. The lines these carts give are BOLD and CRISPY. Super smooth running and very minimal trauma. The carts put ink in effortlessly and hold enough for long pulls and they are hands down better than my DaVinci liners and blow kwadron out the water. If you like big bold clean lines these trad loose liners are worth every penny. Also Needlesupply customer service and sales service is a perfect 10/10 just great friendly people that really go beyond to help you in a quick phone call.